17 year old male. some fat packs at school bothering me. anyway can learn some karate/judo etc defence moves?
Note: If the kids you mention use knives or guns then it's best to avoid them as much as possible.
Please go find a good martial art school in your area.
A book or website will most likely fail you during a critical moment as you are not being guided through the training procedure with an instructor. you know?
To find a good school do the following:
Refuse to sign a contract
Never pay for rank testing, ask up front (let them know that you know this practice is BS).
Join a clean, friendly school.
Make sure the school does actual contact sparring, ask to observe some.
Take free classes.
Join where you feel you will be comfortable working out because you will have to work out a lot to be proficient.
My philosophy on fights is that they are willing physical challenges between people's egos. A fight implies that the choice to walk away was refused by one or more parties. Thus the whole fight is a wasteful experience that risks negative results.
look for a peaceful solution in all endeavors. "In the path of war thorn bushes sprout."- Sun Tzu / The Art of War
your best bet is a class, then you will know how exactly to preform the moves and there is less chance of you causing yourself an injury.
your right about the dont tell me to talk to them thing, alot of the time is situations like this things cant be resolved thorugh talking to the people who are causinbg you ther hassle, but why not try telling a teacher or parent?
hope things pick up for you friend, and they stop being such idiots, they are only cowards anyways.
Tell some adult staff member on campus what's going on. It's their LEGAL responsibility to take care of this crap.
Sign up for a martial arts class. I recommend Karate, Krav Maga, Muay Thai. These arts take awhile to master, but you'll get into great shape, gain more confidence, get a lot of new friends, and learn how to handle these situations (IF the instructors are any good) along the way.
It's true that most confrontations CAN be handled without violence. Sometimes, though, the jerks just gotta get bopped a few times to get them to leave you alone.
Also. if the a**wholez are packing (knives/guns/spray/tasers, you get the idea...), avoid them and report their butts to the safe schools officer.
I hope this helps. I fully understand that not all schools and school districts handle campus violence the same way, and I hope things work out for you.
Best Wishes For A Happy New Year
Beside that if you're 17, it's likely you will graduate this or next year. I doubt this is enough time for you to learn if your only goal is to beat bully up.
So you gotta to find other way to fix this probelm.
Ultimately, I agree wtih the others - you might be able to learn some quick self-defense moves from a book - basically where to punch or kick to do the most damage - and that's only as a back-up if you are in a no-win, no-run situation.
But if you are not training regularly with a martial arts class (or even with your friends), those moves will probably be tough to pull off (for quick and simple self-defense moves, check traditional japanese jiu-jitsu, krav maga, vee-jitsu -- and fight ONLY if you are cornered, have no alternative, can't run, etc. - you don't know what the other guy's got, and the odds are rarely worth it). And don't get lured into the confidence that comes from training in the martial arts - a single strike can knock out a grand-master in martial arts - martial arts helps, but a fight is a fight.
If it is a pack of guys, though - even for a trained artist, that's tough. I agree wholeheartedly that you should get someone else involved - teachers or if appropriate, officers (stay anonymous as best as possible, if you think there might be retribution -- once again, don't worry about being brave against a bunch of guys that don't deserve your respect). And if you have the slightest suspicion that there might be weapons involved, there is NO winning that - get to the proper authority now! It is not brave to stand up against those type of odds - not even the toughest trained fighter in the world is going to win. Good luck.
A quick chop or thumb to the adams apple/ throat area done correctly will bring any grown man to his knees.
A kick to the front of the knee will usually drop an attacker
A poke in the eye or strike to nose can deter a bully.
If you show them you are not afraid and are able to just ignore or avoid them they just might leave you alone.
First, if there's several, and you have no training in any multi-attacker martial arts, don't go anywhere by yourself. Make sure you're always around other people because groups of punks like that are dangerous, mostly because they're immature and ignorant.
Second, no book is good enough to replace the instruction of a good teacher. But choose carefully; the first time you hear the word "contract," run like the wind. Any school that requires contracts up front is unsure of their own teachings.
Third, and I know this will sound like surrender to you, however--TELL SOMEONE. I know perfectly well how humiliating that can be, but it's better to be safe and let them hang themselves than to be their punching bag.
Whatever you do, I hope you make yourself the better person. I know how you feel; I was bullied all the time as a kid, too. I once had a jock picking me up and dumping me over the railings of several flights of stairs to get a few laughs. There's nothing cool about guys who do that kind of stuff. Karma will come around in the end.
Mean time make sure the school officials know what is happening and who is doing it.
If it comes down to these guys becoming your attackers, do use every part of your body to fend them off, elbows knees feet fists.
If you hear rumors of weapons tell the authorities right away.
Stay strong, be your self, and if cant avoid the fight, fight like a dragon.
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