3 fights away - if Valuev gets to 49-0, do we consider him as good as Marciano?


Question:Nicolay Valuev, the big, but surprisingly effective Russian is now at 46-0 after stopping Jameel McCline in 3.
If he wins 3 more fights, do we consider him as good as Rocky Marciano?

Answers:

Why wouldn't Larry Holmes fight Greg Page for the WBC title?

Honestly I don't see either one of them as that great. Everytime I talk to someone who knows something about boxing they loock at me like im crazy when I speak of Marciano. I mean he's good but he's not as good as an Ali, Frazier, Robinson, Foreman, even a Holyfield. Marciano's only notable win really was against Joe Louis and Louis was at the end of his rope. And I'm not a fan of Valuev. But to answer your question. No, Rocky will be greater than Valuev. Reguardless of his record. They are both extremley overrated.

What do you think about mike tyson?

nope, he didnt fight the heavyweights to be as good. if he fought Klitshko or even Calvin Brock, he could be considered. The best fighter he ever fought was Ruiz and he was on his way down anyway

Dope dope doepe?

No. Marciano earned most of those wins defending the title, not climbing in the ring with cannon fodder on the way to one. Also, the boxer who does match Marciano will have to have retired undefeated too.

Only great boxers I have seen in last 20 years have been- Sugar Ray, Roy Jones, maybe Evander, Foreman (but from his early days of course), Oscar looked great but never recovered from that fight with Tito Trinidad.

The sport is awful now. I can't believe as great a boxing enthusiast as I am, I could ever prefer UFC, but boxing is so ridiculously corrupt and sub-mental these days it resembles WWF Wrestling. UFC, though not for me, is certainly a throwback to the old ironman days of boxing, where titleholders truly had to defend against the greatest opponents in the sport.

Julio Cesar Chavez Best boxer in history hands down. Or why not?

I say yes. Face it, Marciano never REALLY fought a prime "great" either. Marciano never would have been competitative in this day in age. Ofcourse, many will disagree with me. Valuev would have beat Marciano, it is simple to me.

What happened?

No way. Marciano's competition was much steeper. Who's this Russian guy fought, anyone worthwhile??

If Religion and Science had a boxing match, who would win and why?

No way!! He fought most of his fights in russia. Whoe were they? Then he beat a john ruiz wich isnt saying much. Who has he fought after that? Not that there is much out there to fight, but hes scraping the bottom of the barrel for his opponents.

In boxing blood comes out. As per the law it is a crim. Why not bann this game?

He needs to unify the belts to get more respect. Good showing against McCline except that McCline's knee popped out which is why McCline couldn't continue.

What fighters did Sugar Ray Robinson knock out going backwards?

NO AND A 1000 TIMES. YOU AND SOME OF YOUR NEW FOUND CRONIES ARE SAYING THAT MARCIANO WAS OVERRATED WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOME VALIDITY. MY POINT IS IF ROCCO IS OVERRATED THEN VALUEV IS (YOU CAN NOT EVEN DESCRIBE WHAT HE IS?)

TO REVISIT YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION ABOUT THIS SAME POINT. YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG WHEN YOU SAY WHAT IS INSIDE A FIGHTER NO LONGER MATTERS BECAUSE OF MODERN ADVANCES.

WHAT IS INSIDE IS WHAT MAKES A WINNER. REMEMBER THE RABBIT AND THE TURTLE. WHAT IS REALLY AMAZING IS THAT AN EXPERT LIKE YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT.

EDIT:
LOUIS, CHARLES, WALCOTT AND MOORE EVEN AS THE HAS BEEN FIGHTERS THAT ROCCO BEAT WOULD DEFEAT VALUEV.

I GUESS SOMEONE IS TRYING TO JOIN THE TROLL FAMILY.

Thoughts on Jermain Taylor?

No. Valuev will never be mentioned in the top 100 best heavyweights ever, much less top 10. He is a horrible boxer.

Marquez vs pacquiao II,what would be the scenario?

That Q put the cat amongst the pigeon's...LOL..has aint fit to lace The Rocks gloves.lol

Holyfield vs. Maddalone another tune up fight?

As good as Marciano im not sure about that? but as a current world champ with a record of 46 and 0 can he really be as bad as people say. Valuev is not a pretty fighter to watch but as you say is very effective with what he does and underrated by most. I can't see him currently being defeated by anyone any time soon, and i would imagine he will soon eclipse marcianos record and possibly remain undefeated till he retires due to the lack of great heavyweight fighters at the moment.

WHO WILL WIN THE DELAHOYA and mayweather fight and why?

Brad, The Rock fought and beat great fighters that were indeed past their prime. But they weren't the chopped liver that Don King has been feeding Valuev. Whether the people that are of the opinion that Marciano was overrated want to admit it or not, the Rock was and will always be a legend of the fight game. Valuev should not be considered Marciano's equal.

Is there a site to watch round by round scorecard of the de la hoya mayweather?

Absolutely. Read the biography on Rocco Francis Marchegiano he had a manager who hand picked his fights but he is still the greatest fighter of all times. I think having his record broken in my time would be an amazing event I will be glad to see happen. Keep watching this kid Valuev he has something and is so under rated. Look he isn't American but Marcano was Italian and is still the greatest boxer.I only wish the two could fight each other David and Goliath.

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