A question for people who are Nascar fans and think they know something about motorsport...?
Question:I'm not saying that fans of stock cars are "rednecks", I have absolutely no idea what that means. But I have this dilemma. What is it that makes you like stock cars and hate other motorsports, like Formula 1 for example?
What is it that you hate about Formula 1? I have been watching it for 10 years and I haven't seen anything that you saw as wrong. And I know a lot about F1.
And how come any driver can be greater than someone who won a title 5 times, in 4 different teams, in cars that could kill you in any second? I don't get it.
Build a better car in F1? Good on you. Build a better car in NASCAR? Nope, we can't have that. NASCAR will find some way to penalize you, to make it "fair."
Can't get around the guy in front of you in F1? Try outbraking him. Try hounding him into a mistake. Try saving fuel while keeping pace with him and catch him on pit stops. Can't get around the guy in front of you in NASCAR? Run over him. No penalty. In fact, NASCAR encourages it.
NASCAR fans are simpletons. They don't care about technology, and they don't care about sport. They just want to see shiny, noisy things go by all blurry, and maybe the occasional fireball or barrell roll.
F1 fans like, well, *racing*.
That should clear it up.
And if you think the subtle nuances of F1 are present in NASCAR, you must be hopelessly addicted to some astoundingly mind-altering drug.
I have watched formula 1 racing to.But it scares me,they are going so fast with really not that much to protect them.I believe Nascar does more to protect there drivers.
Anywho...what Nascar fans have said that they hate F1? You cannot place all Nascar fans in the same category. Just because some Nascar fans dislike F1, that does not mean that they speak for every single Nascar fan. F1 doesn't get as much exposure here in the US as IRL and Nascar does so that plays into why F1 isn't liked as much by Americans.
Besides...a lot of Nascar fans do watch other motorsports other than Nascar they just prefer Nascar more! I myself have watched a couple of IRL races and a couple of F1 races.
My "interest" if you will say...are powerful noises to get my "blood" rushing.
Its exciting. I don't go and watch in the stands to see who wins...what do I care...its all about the vibration of the stands, the cheep beer and the energy of the crowd rushing thru you.
If it is a "redneck" sport, then every American, some Canadian, and Mexican is a redneck. It is growing in popularity fast.
F1 is a great form of racing, but there isn't much exposure in the US to it. If you had more Americans in it with more coverage, F01 might take off here, but until then, NASCAR is king.
The all mighty dollar rules the US, and a company will put it's name on a car getting the exposure. Liek I said, not enough exposure to F1 to get backing from many US companies, so again NASCAR rules.
I first saw a NASCAR race in 1960 on a 1/4 mile track I was hooked on racing.
And since then I have been to the 24 hours at Daytona,The Gator nations,Molsen GP in Canada,I watched the BAJA 1000 in the 70's as part of an emergency team,heck I've even been to a monster truck jam and a moto cross evenr.I've seen indoor midget races amd stood the ground at Indy.
But where ever I go I still like my full body stock cars.
It is not which is better it is which form of racing the individual enjoys.
And a little fact is football was nearly banned in the early 20th century because there were more deaths during the games than any othe sport.
Yes ANY driver in any form of racing can be killed or seriously injured at any time.
Dale Earnhardt died not terribly long ago and he had won 7 titles, Richard Petty also won 7 titles.
Edward S: All of the points you just made for F1, apply equally to Nascar. Do a little research, before you speak.
Just can't stand to look at arrogant buttholes like Schumacher. Now that he's retired, maybe there is a chance that he will be replaced with someone who has personality. If there were more Tony Canaan's, Castroneves, and Elliott Sadler's, maybe F1 would have a better chance at attracting more Americans, Canadians, etc.
And why are guys like Montoya jumping ship to head to Nascar?
It's simply more popular, that's all.
I grew up around a short track and I guess I grew accustomed to stock cars. Therefore, I started following the higher series of NASCAR. No real explanation, just my choice.
One thing I do like is they put on rain tires and run in the rain.
Anyways, to each his own.
Personal tastes in sports is just that: Personal
But, just in the last year I have gotten hooked on Nascar. It is kind of like drinking coffee you watch one Sunday afternoon and then you just have to watch again the next weekend and pretty soon you give up other activities so you can see who will win the next race.
Formula 1; is harder to get hooked on because; one the don't have the marketing that makes you feel as if you really know the drivers, that they are a part of your family, so to speak. I think Danika Patrick came closest in a while to make us want to watch, but now she too seems to have lost that personal appeal.
Plus, they don't seem to televise the Fl races on a regular basis.
I don't watch for the crashes especially, I watch for the ones who are running in the top ten and then are trying to win. In F1, the one who starts out in first will normally stay there and no one really seems to try really hard to beat them out. There just doesn't seem to be the hustle you see in Nascar.
If 6 years ago you would have told me I would be a Nascar fan, I would have laughed in your face. But, here I am caught and enjoying myself.
F1 is not regularly televised on standard cable channels, for one. SPEED channel, maybe. They dont have tracks in tons of different states that garner as much hoopala as the Nascar ones do.
they are fast, they are dangerous. they are good drivers.
i dont hate f1, just dont watch it.
what exactly is the definition of "a redneck"?
country boy i am.grew up in south texas,live in kentucky.
stock car racing is pretty much a part of culture in these parts.
i do not hate F1 racing.it is just boring to me.they might as well just not race.qualifying is pretty much how they finish.no close racing or side by side.most passes are done on pit road.
there is not much of a market here in the states for F1.
What is it that you hate about Nascar? I have been watching it for 30 years and I haven't seen anything that you saw as wrong. And I know a lot about Nascar
On this thread, I've seen FAR FAR more uninformed HATRED thrown toward Nascar than the other way around. I love all motorsports (except maybe truck & tractor pulls).
I love NASCAR. I have all of my teeth, nicely styled hair and I am working on my doctorate and master's and already have two undergraduate degrees. Don't make assumptions about drivers, but more importantly about the fans as you have no clue as to what you are talking about. You don't know me and I don't know you. The assumptions you made just now tells me that I don't want to either.
Now to answer the real question: I have loved NASCAR for years now. I have tried to watch F1, but like someone else has stated, it gets boring after about the first five laps. There doesn't seem to be much competition. Whoever wins the pole might as well be handed the win and trophy the very same day.
now let's talk about the pit crews. in F1 again, through technology, you let the machines do all the work. a jack that lifts the whole car up at once, one big hub on the wheels, electronic fuel pumps. just like with the drivers, the pit crew members need very little skill. in NASCAR, the pit crew changes 4 tires, using one hydrolic jack, lifting one side of the car up at a time, adds 22 gallons of fuel, the old fashioned way, with big, bulky, heavy gas cans, and makes adjustments to the car such as pulling a spring rubber out of a spring underneath the car, all in 13-15 seconds. an eye popping, amazing feat that these guys make look routine because they are great atheletes.
so there you have it. that's why we love NASCAR and don't follow F1(we don't hate it, we just have no interest in it). in america, our sports heros are people, not machines. in F1 it's all about the cars. in NASCAR, it's all about the people who make them go.
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